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Nina Hagen

Post  Monocus on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:22 pm


Born 11 March 1955
The "Mother of Punk"

Total range: G♯1-B7
Sung range: G♯1-B♭6

Significant high notes:

B7 ("Super Freak Family")
A7 ("Super Freak Family")
C♯7 ("Move Over" live at Pank Club)
C7 ("Knocking On Herman's Door" live)
B6 ("Move Over" live at Pank Club, "We Are In Space")
B♭6 ("Auf'm Friedhof", "Wau Wau")
A6 ("1985 Ekstasy Drive", "Auf'm Friedhof")
G♯6 ("Heiss", "Pank", "TV-Glotzer (White Punks On Dope)", "Wenn Ich Ein Junge Wär")
G6 ("Auf'm Bahnhof Zoo", "Naturträne", "Superboy")
F♯6 ("Naturträne", "TV-Glotzer (White Punks On Dope)")
F6 ("Auf'm Bahnhof Zoo", "Rivers of Babylon" live 1982)
E6 ("Auf'm Bahnhof Zoo", "Cosma Shiva", "Naturträne")
E♭6 ("Cosma Shiva")
D6 ("Wir Tanzen Tango")
C♯6 ("Wau Wau")
C6 ("1985 Ekstasy Drive" live Rock in Rio 1985, Omhaidakhandi, "Wau Wau")
B5 ("African Reggae", "Auf'm Friedhof", "Dread Love", "Future Is Now", "Herrmann Hieß Er", "Naturträne", "Südafrika, das Nazinest" live)
B♭5 ("1985 Ekstasy Drive" live Rock in Rio 1985, "Carmen" live, "Cosma Shiva", "I Love Paul", "My Way", "Unbeschreiblich Weiblich", "Zarah (Ich Weiß Es Wird Einmal Ein Wunder Geschehen)")
A5 ("African Reggae", "Dread Love", "So Bad", "Süsses, Süsses Lied Der Errettung")
G♯5 ("Alptraum", "Dread Love" live in Paris 1980, "1985 Ekstasy Drive" live Rock in Rio 1985, "Habanera" live in Tokyo 1986, "Herrmann Hieß Er", "My Sensation")
G5 ("Carmen" live, "Divine Sex And Romance", "Dread Love", "Future Is Now", "My Sensation", "New York, New York", "Was Es Ist", "World Is Now")
F♯5 ("African Reggae", "All 4 Franckie")
F5 ("Alptraum", "Fisch Im Wasser", "Habanera" live in Tokyo 1986, "Mama", "Revolution Ballroom", "Smack Jack")
E5 ("Alptraum", "African Reggae", "Dope Sucks", "Herrmann Hieß Er", "More Over", "Was Denn")
E♭5 ("Honigmann")
D5 ("Revolution Ballroom")
C♯5 ("Hold Me", "Move Over" live at Pank Club, "My Way", "Nineteen Hundred And Eighty-Five", "Super Freak Family")
C5 ("African Reggae", "If You Should Ever Leave")
B4 ("Auf'm Friedhof", "Right On Time")
B♭4 ("If You Should Ever Leave", "My Way")

Significant low notes:

G♯1 ("Don't Blame the Crocodile" live)
A1 ("1985 Ekstasy Drive")
B♭1 ("Frequenzkontrolle", "My Sensation", "Smack Jack")
B1 ("Fever", "Tiere")
C2 ("Flat Floot Floogie")
D2 ("Nobody's Fault But Mine", "Noch Ein Tässchen Kaffee", "Personal Jesus", "Schachmatt", "Serenade In Blue", "We Are In Space")
E♭2 ("Run On")
E2 ("Bitten Der Kinder & An Meine Landsleute", "God's Radar", "Handgrenade", "Love Will Survive (Die Liebe)", "Nobody's Fault But Mine", "Run On", "Serenade In Blue", "Tiere")
F2 ("God's Radar", "Let Me Entertain You", "Nobody's Fault But Mine", "Noch Ein Tässchen Kaffee", "Run On")
F♯2 ("Fieber", "Schachmatt")
G2 ("Fieber", "Just A Little Talk With Jesus", "Love & Kisses", "Mrityunjaya Mantra", "Seemann")
A2 ("Der Wind Hat Mir Ein Lied Erzählt", "Let Me Entertain You", "Riders On The Storm" live, "Seemann")
B♭2 ("Happiness", "Serenade In Blue")
B2 ("Dread Love" live in Paris 1980, "Future Is Now", "Only Seventeen")
C3 ("Alptraum", "An Einem Tag Im Frühling", "Can You Take A Joke", "L'Amore", "Let Me Entertain You", "TV-Glotzer (White Punks On Dope)", "T.V. Snooze")
C♯3 ("Atomic Flash Deluxe", "Männer", "Roter Mohn")

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*Red marks extremely bad, unimpressive or unintentional notes.
*Italics mark non-sung notes.



Overview:


(I used this video as a basis and guide and went further from that. That would have been easier if he'd answered my request on the songs' titles...)

PERFORMANCES:
(in random order)




Metal (Rammstein-cover)


Opera

Noch Ein Tässchen Kaffee

Serenade In Blue





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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Monocus on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:23 pm

This is what I've got so far.
Due to her preference for really experimental, eccentric and hard to digest singing the thread is still a little bit of a mess.

To do:
Re-evaulating sungness and register of notes.
Especially in her early days she would do upper 6th octave notes for no apparent reason in the middle of a phrase or a word even.
What's sung and what isn't is hard to tell. I thus didn't include "sung range" yet.
Her approach to notes in the upper 5th octave is mostly weird.
So plain weird in fact, that I don't have the slightest clue what register a lot of notes are.
Due to all of those hard-to-categorise notes the thread may lack continuity.
I'm working on that.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Cesar on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:30 pm

Full D2? Shocked

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  B6 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:42 pm

Yep. Link to the orange C6(s)? I remember some pretty black ones in the range video.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Monocus on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:51 pm

It's from this not at all weird song


Can't find the time-stamp in my notes right now, but iirc it's the first in the range video.

I could only retrace two C6s from the video. The others didn't contain any lyrics that would have made it possible to find them.
I have her whole discography available to me, so I will eventually find the others.

Which ones in the video do you mean (the parts begins at 15:26 and 17:16)?
would be nice to have a reference.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  B6 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:29 pm

Monocus wrote:It's from this not at all weird song


Can't find the time-stamp in my notes right now, but iirc it's the first in the range video.
Some of the B5s, C6s and C#6s in this song sound full to me.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  B6 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:34 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpE18h4Xes 2:40 nice sustained black B5, dunno the song though.
Also, she's an alto at highest in my opinion- she doesn't just have good technique for lows, she's also naturally pretty low-placed and her ~Bb4 notes are already pretty pushed (though she does get easy-sounding upper fifth octave stuff thanks to hed vois).

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Monocus on Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:02 am

The song is "Südafrika, Das Nazinest". I have it in my notes but somehow overlooked it.

Nina Hagen ≠ Nina Hagen

Throughout her career her voiced changed a lot and rapidly:

The Nina Hagen from the 70s had a high and light voice. Effortless highs and high speaking voice.



In the 80s her voice changed in a lower, rougher direction.
She was still mostly able to sing the old stuff (except Naturträne).
Her lifestyle (drugs, smoking) and singing habits were beginning to carve in.
Her voice didn't get notably low until the mid/late 90s.

She generally pushed a lot of chest in most of her regular singing.
She didn't have to push to reach those pitches without head voice; I've heard effortless non-head-voice F5s by her.
Up until when she was able to do that I don't know.

I do agree that her voice now is rather low-placed, but it wasn't always that way.
She seems to have basically lost her high range.
Since her voiced changed significantly over time should I simply write down: "Mezzo-Soprano (later Alto)"
That would seem reasonable to me.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  B6 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:40 pm

Oh holy shit, "belted Eb6" at 15:38 in the video sounds really believable as black and it also tops at E6 TMI

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Angus on Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:03 am

Almost our first female cunt!

Wait a minute...

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  B6 on Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:03 am

At 1:00 in the range video... Black B♭1?
EDIT: first C2 also sounds believable as black to me.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Monocus on Fri May 31, 2013 8:51 pm

Managed to trace some more notes. Should be all for now.
Say hello to to über-cunt Nina Hagen!

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Shikkaku on Fri May 31, 2013 11:09 pm

Should we call a female 4OW a "dick"?

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  Super Bread on Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:29 am

NO.

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Re: Nina Hagen

Post  B6 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:32 pm

Monocus wrote:Managed to trace some more notes. Should be all for now.
Say hello to to über-cunt Nina Hagen!
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