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Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:56 pm



Voice Type: Tenor
Vocal Range: E3 - B5

Singer of a spanish power/epic/symphonic metal band called OPERA MAGNA.
He has the really high voice. He does not manage to look like a woman for stamp of voice, but I know some women who cannot sing so highly.

HIGH NOTES
B5 ("El fuego de mi venganza" - countertenor voice)
A5 ("Torquemada - Avalanch cover", "La caída de la casa Usher"--> Touches Bb5 with vibrato)
A♭5 ("Tierras de tormento", "Entierro prematuro")
G5 ("El fuego de mi venganza", "Entierro prematuro", "El ultimo caballero")
F♯5 ("El fuego de mi venganza", "El pozo y el péndulo"
F5 ("Un sueño en un sueño")
E5 ("Torquemada - Avalanch cover")
E♭5 ("Entierro prematuro")
D5 ("El pozo y el péndulo")
C♯5 ("El pozo y el péndulo")
C5 ("Torquemada - Avalanch cover")

LOW NOTES:
E3 ("Largo viaje") --> Weakly
F♯3 ("Más allá de la muerte")
G3 ("Edgar Allan Poe")


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*Orange marks notes with questionable registers: absolutely no use figuring out these.
*Blue marks probable non-modal notes.
*Red marks extremely bad, unimpressive or unintentional notes.
*Italics mark non-sung notes.
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Otruv on Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:03 am



He singing "nessun dorma" effortless. Very leggero tenor ^^

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Post  Otruv on Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:05 am

Otruv wrote:

He singing "nessun dorma" effortless. Very leggero tenor ^^
Really he dont sing very well the Nessun dorma, not because he t capable of giving the tones (he gives them of leftovers), but that isnt an aria for a leggero tenor (in fact José Vicente is more high tenor, almost a natural countertenor). This aria its more for a dramatic tenor or spinto tenor (low tenors) or lyric tenor at last (mid tenor, as Pavarotti)

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:08 am

Otruv wrote:
Otruv wrote:

He singing "nessun dorma" effortless. Very leggero tenor ^^
Really he dont sing very well the Nessun dorma, not because he t capable of giving the tones (he gives them of leftovers), but that isnt an aria for a leggero tenor (in fact José Vicente is more high tenor, almost a natural countertenor). This aria its more for a dramatic tenor or spinto tenor (low tenors) or lyric tenor at last (mid tenor, as Pavarotti)

We've discussed Pavarotti before on the read
and he's a LT not a MT
He is a Lyric tenor but still displays the qualities of a LT
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Post  Hopscotch on Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:15 am

LT more like

Lyric Tenor
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:28 am

'Threadless Singers'
Pg 27

Check it
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Otruv on Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:12 am

Martin28 wrote:'Threadless Singers'
Pg 27

Check it

I disagree. The lyric tenor is the mid tenor (Not too high not too much down), from always.

In addition, following your system, if a high baritone is a leggero baritone and a low baritone is a bass (dramatic) baritone, a lyric tenor cannot be a low tenor, because is a mid tenor, together with the lyric - leggero tenor. Low tenor they are the spinto and the dramatic. Pavarotti was a lyric tenor.

The most logical classification, male voices, would be like that:

T.R.P ----- CLASSICAL TERMS
Low Bass - Deep bass "basso profundo"
Bass - Bass
Low Baritone - Bass baritone "dramatic baritone"
S.Baritone - Lyric Baritone
High Baritone - Leggero Baritone
Low tenor - Spinto and dramatic tenor
S.Tenor - Lyric and lyric leggero tenor
High tenor - Leggero tenor and high tenor (natural countertenor)


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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:28 am

Otruv wrote:
Martin28 wrote:'Threadless Singers'
Pg 27

Check it

I disagree. The lyric tenor is the mid tenor (Not too high not too much down), from always.

In addition, following your system, if a high baritone is a leggero baritone and a low baritone is a bass (dramatic) baritone, a lyric tenor cannot be a low tenor, because is a mid tenor, together with the lyric - leggero tenor. Low tenor they are the spinto and the dramatic. Pavarotti was a lyric tenor.

The most logical classification, male voices, would be like that:

T.R.P ----- CLASSICAL TERMS
Low Bass - Deep bass "basso profundo"
Bass - Bass
Low Baritone - Bass baritone "dramatic baritone"
S.Baritone - Lyric Baritone
High Baritone - Leggero Baritone
Low tenor - Spinto and dramatic tenor
S.Tenor - Lyric and lyric leggero tenor
High tenor - Leggero tenor and high tenor (natural countertenor)


A "lyric tenor" has a "light" quality to his voice and is probably capable of singing clearly and musically the very highest pitches within the male vocal range. Luciano Pavarotti was a lyric tenor.

Lyric is only referring to his timbre and the colour of his voice
This isn't taking much else into account like his Range,His tessitura and his Passaggio or any of the other factors when deciding his voice type
this does not dictate ones voice type at all

But Honestly I not gonna argue this

But there are so many more deciding factors to take into account
Personally i don't think his timbre is light enough to constitute ST at all



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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:03 am

A discussion like this reminds me of why I sometimes want to have a break from this site.
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Post  Hopscotch on Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:09 am

T. wrote:A discussion like this reminds me of why I sometimes want to have a break from this site.
Voice types. Puking
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:36 am

No, voice types are fine. Taking the discussion over the top is not.
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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:43 am

T. wrote:No, voice types are fine. Taking the discussion over the top is not.

Jesus T relax
I only said what I knew on the matter
I also said i wasn't gonna argue with him
we are all entitled to an opinion
i was just giving mine

Btw I haven't said anything that hasn't been said
a thoudsand times on nearly every thread on this site
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Otruv on Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:07 pm

Martin28 wrote:
T. wrote:No, voice types are fine. Taking the discussion over the top is not.

Jesus T relax
I only said what I knew on the matter
I also said i wasn't gonna argue with him
we are all entitled to an opinion
i was just giving mine

Btw I haven't said anything that hasn't been said
a thoudsand times on nearly every thread on this site

Ok ok, i only was confused. Wink

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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:14 pm

Martin28 wrote:
Jesus T relax
LOL
Martin28 wrote:
Btw I haven't said anything that hasn't been said
a thoudsand times on nearly every thread on this site
That's kind of the problem.
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:38 pm

Martin28 wrote:
T. wrote:No, voice types are fine. Taking the discussion over the top is not.

Jesus T relax
I only said what I knew on the matter
I also said i wasn't gonna argue with him
we are all entitled to an opinion
i was just giving mine

Btw I haven't said anything that hasn't been said
a thoudsand times on nearly every thread on this site

Laughing
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:48 pm

Martin28 wrote:Jesus T relax

Laughing
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:02 pm

Jesus T
U some bad MoFo Laughing
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Otruv on Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:55 am


Seg 0:50. His speaking voice is more high than a lot of women xdxdxd

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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Guest on Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:55 am

It's not very high though.
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Post  Otruv on Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:05 am

Sippe wrote:It's not very high though.
The case is that he is speaking relaxed, without making the voice higher, he is speaking in his natural tone, in addition it has a voice that scarcely has neither body nor resonance. I have heard him speaking face to face, in person, thrilled after a concert and speech in about sol4-do5 in a natural high speaking voice (effortless, without shouting)

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Post  B6 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:58 am

Otruv wrote:
Seg 0:50. His speaking voice is more high than a lot of women xdxdxd
You probably haven't heard many women talk Yeah!
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Hopscotch on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:11 am

Ouch!!!!!
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Post  Cesar on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:16 am

Abacus wrote:Ouch!!!!!
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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Otruv on Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:28 pm

He doesn't sound as a standard tenor, is a very very leggero tenor. In spite of it, it continues sounding masculine, but I insist that I hear daily many women who speak lower than he.
Probably in spain there are more mezzos and contraltos that sopranos.

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Re: Jose Vicente Broseta

Post  Otruv on Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:07 am

Then in this forum, leggero tenor is a standard tenor, not a high tenor? Why leggero baritone is a high baritone if leggero tenor isnt high tenor?

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