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Post  The Great Heroins on Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:54 pm

Listened to Fat Bottom Girls and thought it was a hell of a lot better than me at fourteen and maybe even at sixteen. Very Happy I don't think you are that bad honestly just going off that one cover.  Keep working at it and dream big.  Pitch in that cover was actually pretty solid.
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:52 pm

Thanks!

I will continue to work on making my covers less shouty.
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:04 am

Here's a real treat. My own, original song, all vocals, instrumentals, lyrics, and everything by me! It's called "I Feel Alive".

https://soundcloud.com/hayden-martin-12/i-feel-alive

"Spazzy Don't Cry" is just a family in-joke, Spaz was the name of a dog we had. Sometimes he'd cry when my Mom was upstairs, and she'd say "Spazzy, Don't Cry!"

Also, Killer Queen

I tried using a less shouty approach for this one.
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Post  Princesszolli Demi on Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:43 am

"a real treat"..........................
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Post  Holsety on Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:20 am

Like I said, covering most Queen songs in this era you will not want to pull chest through the whole song. You absolutely need more dynamics to do Queen (or really anything) any justice.
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Re: Fetty Mercury's Singing thread

Post  Setzer on Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:55 pm

Setzer wrote:Why does this remind me of some over-confident X-Factor/American Idol auditionee? Popcorn
You only reinforced my theory here^

Read peoples' suggestions and actually take in some of the advice they gave you, instead of just going "yeah I got it", all while thinking to yourself "fuck these guys I'm the best"


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Post  Fetty Mercury on Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:46 pm

I am reading the suggestions. In this song i tried to be less shouty.
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Post  Jack-OF-Blades on Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:00 am

Fetty Mercury wrote:I am reading the suggestions. In this song i tried to be less shouty.

You could try singing songs that are in your mid range and sing those softly/gently, while trying to put some emotion in your singing ( depending of the subject on the subject song).
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Post  Princesszolli Demi on Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:21 am

sing yyz
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Re: Fetty Mercury's Singing thread

Post  Baronessa on Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:06 am

As far as practicing goes, you need to repeat the song phrase by phrase until you don't crack out of unpreparedness. Breath control and support is literally holding your breath. Practice singing scales throughout your usable singing range with a single breath, and try to make it sound as resonant as possible with the utmost minimal amount of exhalation.

Listening to your take on Circumstances, I can clearly hear that you're pushing your chest voice with your larynx stuck too low. That's what makes you sound shouty and unable to sustain those upper fifth octave notes. You gotta learn how to shed that weight so you can sustain those upper fifths. You can hit the notes, you just can't sustain them. Listen to Geddy when he sings the chorus of Circumstances; he sounds really thin in it, not solely because of his high tenor but also because he has lifted his larynx to about as high as it can go. Learning how to sing with twang and vowel modification can help you control your larynx, which Geddy does in Circumstances as well, to a point where he begins to sound incomprehensible because he's more concerned about hitting the notes than about spelling. Getting those vowels in shape is supposed to be the first step to great phrasing, then you can start worrying about consonants and spelling.
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Post  Rebsedd on Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:10 am

I know you like rush, so you may want to try 'Resist' or 'The Garden'.
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:26 pm

I'll do those songs.
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Post  Setzer on Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:26 pm

Please practice and learn the songs first.
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:51 pm

I will.
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Re: Fetty Mercury's Singing thread

Post  Rebsedd on Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:22 am

About a year and something ago I asked RevDrucifer (a really talented dude that used to hang out in this forum) for advice. He was nice enough to drop some precious feedback on me. Maybe some of it will help you aswell. You'll probably benefit from reading it, scince I thought some stuff could apply to your current level.


Spoiler:

RevDrucifer wrote:Hey brother! I saw your PM this weekend but didn't have time to write back.

Pretty damn slick, man!

Really, the biggest thing going against you is the amount of time you put into your recording. Vocally speaking, you've already figured out how to get into those higher registers with some power and you've got really good control. Listen right at 2:02, you hear that light fry rasp kick in on the second syllable of the word "hungry" and you can tell that that word is just floatin' out of your throat, it probably felt effortless when tracking it and that's the kind of control/feel you always want to have. It sounds like you're starting to close up the throat a little bit on those higher notes, at the end of the word "hungraaaaAAAAAAAYAAAYAAA", you can't tell right away, but by the very end of the word you can hear that you're 'dropping' the note like it was getting too heavy to carry.

When you reach for those higher notes, try try bringing your chin/lower jaw down more while keeping the same throat pressure the same the entire time you're reaching up for that note. Support from the diaphragm is how you want to get up there, not by tightening the throat.

Getting back to the recording thing; you've got the ability to actually sing stuff like this, take the time to nail it when recording. I'm not sure what you're using to record with and if you're unfamiliar with recording in general in can be pretty daunting, but the results are worth it.
What I hear when I listen to this is a guy who has the ability to get this song about 90% close to the original but only took enough time to get about 40% there.

One thing that will benefit you greatly is some compression on the vocals, that'll help tame those volume jumps. Like I said, not sure what you're using to record but I know you've got the ability to record two tracks at once so I'm assuming you've got some sort of DAW, I'm sure there's a compressor and a reverb effect in there. Depending on the compressor they'll have different ways of setting them but on average, try a 3:1 ratio, threshold in the middle and the gain will depend on how you're actually singing into it, you'll have to experiment with that. Here's a nice little bit of info on compression that'll make it easier to understand how it can help-
http://music.tutsplus.com/tutorials/the-beginners-guide-to-compression--audio-953

Compression is studio secret sauce, man. Sure, Chris Cornell is a great fucking singer....but Chris Cornell always has something in the studio and live....a great fucking compressor. Check out this video, see in the beginning as he's introducing himself he turns his face away from the mic and towards the camera, but the volume doesn't decrease one bit? That's because that mic is compressed to fuck and back. He can just about whisper that song out (and borderline does) and it'll sound like he's singing way above speaking volume.


My buddy got to see him at an acoustic radio gig. It was so cramped that when everyone sat on the floor, my buddy's foot was stuck against the leg of a chair. He's thinking he's going to have some fat radio guy's balls in his face when Chris walks in with an acoustic and sits in the exact chair. Lucky bastard got to hear him sing from about 2.5 feet away, no mics

Anyway-

I wouldn't be able to sing half the stuff I can if I hadn't had the experience of singing in the studio. Take the time when you record to listen to every nuance of your singing and don't keep a track unless you're happy with it 100%. Pinpoint weak spots in every phrase, note, breath. I'm sure the day Cornell recorded "Hunger Strike" there were 30 takes of "I'm going hungraaaaayyAAAAAAAAA" that sounded like ass and 10 that didn't. You end up practicing as you're trying to get it right and the repetition helps build muscle memory.

The guitarist, Mark Morton, from Lamb Of God said recently, "90% of the riffs I write suck, you people only hear the 10% that are good." and the same thing goes for singing. There's exceptions, obviously, but in general it's safe to say that there are more takes that DON'T make it to a record than takes that DO and there's a reason for that!

Good luck with singing!
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Post  Misukiy Lambertson on Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:08 am

He sounds like a great guy, what happened to him?
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:20 am

I'll do the Garden.
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Re: Fetty Mercury's Singing thread

Post  Baronessa on Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:27 am

I hope you work LONG and HARD on it.

By LONG, I mean at least a month, and by HARD, I mean like meticulously going through it phrase by phrase every other day.

Even soft songs require effort, arguably just as much as soaring ones, just in a different way.
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:45 am

Umm... I think you're taking this too seriously. These are just audio clips i'm posting for fun, it's not like i'm auditioning for being Rush's new lead singer or whatever. Besides, I already made the cover yesterday.
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Post  Baronessa on Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:11 am

It's just how I practice songs before I let anyone hear me actually trying to sing them.

Again, making these for fun is not an excuse to not care.

Is commitment just excessive seriousness to you, though?
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Post  Alex61 on Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:16 am

Agreed. You do need to practice to get better. If you keep doing songs "for fun" without practicing whatsoever, you're unlikely to get any better.

Also I am finding it very hard not to pile on top of that burn.
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Post  Fetty Mercury on Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:19 am

Interstellar wrote:It's just how I practice songs before I let anyone hear me actually trying to sing them.

Again, making these for fun is not an excuse to not care.

Is commitment just excessive seriousness to you, though?

I do make an effort in singing them, and I do care. It's just that spending over a month on one song is just to excessive for me. Everyone does things their own way. Besides, It's not like I don't know the song at all, I know the song very well, it's a song I really like, and i've sang it before.
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Post  Gregsynthbootlegs on Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:21 am

You're gonna blow your voice out if you keep singing like that. It happened to me - wasn't fun.
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Post  The Long Shot on Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:22 am

Work on it as much or as little as you want. Just don't come bitching to us if we have critiques or, heaven forbid, we think it's shit.
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Re: Fetty Mercury's Singing thread

Post  Jack-OF-Blades on Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:24 am

The Long Shot wrote:Work on it as much or as little as you want. Just don't come bitching to us if we have critiques or, heaven forbid, we think it's shit.

What he said.
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