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Post  Guest on Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:54 pm



Voice type: Tenor
Sung range: A2-A5
Total range: D2-A5

Significant high notes:

A5 ("Seven Thunders")
G♯5 ("Lightnin' Strikes Again", "When Heaven Comes Down" live in Japan 1988)
G5 ("In My Dreams", "Kiss of Death", "Paris Is Burning" live, "Tooth And Nail", "Turn on the Action" live in Japan 1988, "Unchain The Night", "When Heaven Comes Down")
F♯5 ("Don't Close Your Eyes", "Paris Is Burning" live, "Seven Thunders", "Til the Livin' End", "Turn on the Action" live in Japan 1988, "Walk Away")
F5 ("Going Under", "Lightnin' Strikes Again", "Standing In The Shadows")
E5 ("Crash 'N Burn", "Cry of the Gypsy", "Dream Warriors", "Kiss of Death", "Liar" live Back In The Streets, "Prisoner" live Back In The Streets, "Til the Livin' End", "Turn on the Action" live in Japan 1988, "Walk Away")
E♭5 ("It's Not Love", "Kiss of Death", "Lightnin' Strikes Again", "Paris Is Burning" live at Beat Club 1982)
D5 ("Back For the Attack", "Night By Night", "Prisoner", "Stop Fighting Love", "Unchain the Night", "Walk Away")
C♯5 ("Erase the Slate", "Lost Behind the Wall", "The Hunger")
C5 ("Back For the Attack", "Bullets to Spare", "Change the World", "Cry of the Gypsy", "Down in Flames", "Living a Lie", "Too High to Fly",  "When Heaven Comes Down")
B4 ("Cry of the Gypsy", "Erase the Slate", "Heaven Sent", It's Not Love", "Jaded Heart", "Lost Behind the Wall", "Prisoner", "So Many Tears", "Voice of the Soul")
B♭4 ("Tooth And Nail", "Unchain the Night")

Significant low notes:

D2 ("Sweet Chains")
G2 (Documentary)
G♯2 ("It's Not Love")
A2 ("Sky Beneath My Feet")
B♭2 ("The Tragedy")
B2 ("Prisoner", "The Hunter", "Venice")
C3 ("The Tragedy", "Too High to Fly")
C♯3 ("Broken Bones", "It's Not Love")
D3 ("Too High to Fly")

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*Orange marks notes with questionable registers: absolutely no use figuring out these.
*Blue marks probable non-modal notes.
*Red marks extremely bad, unimpressive or unintentional notes.
*Italics mark non-sung notes.
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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:17 am

He use to be a good singer back in the 80's, always really liked Dokken's albums from '84-'87. Orange is probably a good choice for some of those highs, I've thought he used falsetto on at least some of them, but I'm not sure with all of them, and screams often give me trouble. His range is completely shot now and his voice is much weaker. When he re-recorded the Dokken classics, he skipped so many of the notes. Wonder how many octaves he currently has?

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Post  Hopscotch on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:03 am

Didn't the B5 turn out to be like an E5?
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Post  derpdederp91 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:39 am

I'd say in regard to the screams he does that alot of them could go both ways (full or falsetto), I'd say anything below the G5 sounds like it has a better chance of being full..but that other stuff around G5-B5 area is very screechy and doesn't sound very convincing to me as being full
...speaking of screams, where do the high screams from When Heaven Comes Down top at ? F5? F#5?

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:28 am

I think When Heaven Comes Down tops at F#5, but not too sure. You may be right on where his fulls stop and the falsettos begin, except when he goes up in Lightning Strikes Again to a G#5, I don't think it really sounds like a different register than the F5s.

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Post  derpdederp91 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:28 pm

good point ... yeah I dunno bout this guy hahah, he really throws me off sometimes when i'm trying to figure out what he's doing

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:01 am

Yeah, a lot of his highs are weird. I think that's why so many are orange in this thread. I've forgotten some of the notes, so I have to listen again. I usually listen to Tooth And Nail, Under Lock And Key and Back For The Attack so I have to listening to Breaking The Chains again, but if I remember correctly, I'd think the highs in "Seven Thunders" are falsetto. Same with the Bb5 in "Paris Is Burning." Jeff Pilson was also a good singer, he used to do quite a few of the highs in Dokken's harmonies. You can see quite a bit of this in that live 1987 concert that was filmed when they opened for Aerosmith.

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:24 am

Where's the G#2 in "Jaded Heart"? I don't remember anything that I'd think was near that low in the lead vocal so I'm assuming it was in the backing vocals?

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Re: Don Dokken

Post  Guest on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:27 am

Somebody help me out with the orange notes.
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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:30 am

The Powerhouse wrote:Somebody help me out with the orange notes.

I'll listen to those albums later, but I'd definitely make "Paris Is Burning" and "Seven Thunders" blue off the top of my head. I'd lean towards black for "Lightning Strikes", though and "Kiss Of Death".

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Post  Hopscotch on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:28 am

If this thread was copied from TRP1, we should probably get the pitches straight before we start worrying about the colors...
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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:08 am

In "Lightning Strikes Again" I think most of those highs are F5, and I think he does get a quick G#5 on the "LIGHTning" here.

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:33 am

Abacus wrote:Didn't the B5 turn out to be like an E5?

Checked this yesterday and this is true. Actually, both "Liar" and "Prisoner" from the Back In The Streets EP top out around E5, nowhere near the A5-B5 range listed, and sound like blue notes to me. I'll re-listen to all those orange notes and try to post some additional notes when I have time.

Edit: Here are a few of the other orange notes with timestamps in the link.

Paris Is Burning Not sure if it sounds like he gets up to B♭5 with the trill at the end. I don't know, but I'd guess he tops out around G5 there. There's another good high as the song starts to fade out, but I doubt that could have been mistaken for a B♭5, then again, after the B5 ended up being an E5, I think it's safe to say these pitches have to be checked.

B♭5 in Seven Thunders sounds believable to me, though.

Also checked "It's Not Love" and the G#5 doesn't exist. I didn't hear anything that sounded remotely close. There is a spoken part that might be fairly low for him, not sure if that still counts as significant, though. I also didn't hear anything close to G5 in "Slippin' Away", and if there is one, it isn't prominent enough to be called significant, imo.

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Re: Don Dokken

Post  Celice on Tue May 28, 2013 10:22 am

Since I'm about to edit the OP as requested in the Thread Updates thread, I'm quoting the previous version in case any of the changes are contested:
Spoiler:
Guest wrote:

Voice type: Tenor
Sung range: G♯2-B5

Significant high notes:

B5 ("Liar" live Back in the Streets)
B♭5 ("Prisoner" live Back in the Streets, "Paris Is Burning", "Seven Thunders")
A5 ("Prisoner")
G♯5 ("Lightnin' Strikes Again", "It's Not Love")
G5 ("Slippin' Away")
F♯5 ("Kiss of Death")
F5 ("Lightnin' Strikes Again")
E5 ("Dream Warriors", "Till the Livin' End", "Kiss of Death")
E♭5 ("Live to Rock (Rock to Live)", "It's Not Love")
D5 ("Unchain the Night")
C5 ("Bullets to Spare", "When Heaven Comes Down")

Significant low notes:

G♯2 ("Jaded Heart")
B2 ("The Hunter", "Prisoner")

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*Orange marks notes with questionable registers: absolutely no use figuring out these.
*Blue marks probable non-modal notes.
*Red marks extremely bad, unimpressive or unintentional notes.
*Italics mark non-sung notes.
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Post  Hopscotch on Tue May 28, 2013 10:26 am

Oh, I had been meaning to do that before, but for some reason I thought it had already been updated. Good on you either way. Tiphat
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Post  B6 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:13 am

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:01 am

Cool to see a video for him. Always been a big Dokken fan.

So I guess his page should look like this for now?

Guest wrote:

Voice type: Tenor
Sung range: G♯2-A5
Total range: D2-A5

Significant high notes:

A5 ("Seven Thunders")
G♯5 ("Lightnin' Strikes Again")
G5 ("Kiss of Death", "Tooth And Nail", "When Heaven Comes Down")
F♯5 ("Don't Close Your Eyes", "Paris Is Burning", "Seven Thunders")
F5 ("Going Under", "Lightnin' Strikes Again", "Standing In The Shadows")
E5 ("Dream Warriors", "Til the Livin' End", "Kiss of Death")
E♭5 ("Live to Rock (Rock to Live)", "It's Not Love")
D5 ("Unchain the Night")
C♯5 ("The Hunger")
C5 ("Bullets to Spare", "When Heaven Comes Down")
B4 ("So Many Tears")

Significant low notes:

D2 ("Sweet Chains")
G2 (Documentary)
G♯2 ("Jaded Heart")
A2 ("Sky Beneath My Feet")
B♭2 ("The Tragedy")
B2 ("The Hunter", "Prisoner", "Venice")
C3 ("The Tragedy")
C♯3 ("Broken Bones")

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*Orange marks notes with questionable registers: absolutely no use figuring out these.
*Blue marks probable non-modal notes.
*Red marks extremely bad, unimpressive or unintentional notes.
*Italics mark non-sung notes.

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Post  Guest on Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:31 pm

NO G#2 on 'Jaded Heart'! B4's though. Razz That doco clip sounds like he's singing 'Louie, Louie' by The Kingsmen!

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Post  B6 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:39 pm

OldSchoolHeavyMetal wrote:So I guess his page should look like this for now?

Guest wrote:*revised OP*
Yeah, but without the orange. Sounds all black to me.
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Post  Guest on Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:03 pm

GT wrote:NO G#2 on 'Jaded Heart'! B4's though. :PThat doco clip sounds like he's singing 'Louie, Louie' by The Kingsmen!

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:32 am

I can agree that his highs all sound pretty black. "Lightnin' Strikes Again" and "Dream Warriors are good examples of how well he blends the top notes with the rest of his range, and the rest of his high notes pretty much sound like those.

Honestly, I've never been able to hear a G♯2 in "Jaded Heart" either. I assumed it either must have been in a backing vocal or it doesn't exist.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:14 am

Hey why's the doco G2 put as not singing?
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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:05 am

Eh, sounds like he's more or less speaking the lyrics to me.

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Post  B6 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:15 am

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Post  Guest on Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:05 am

Well he's still got the melody in there but I see what you guys mean. Speech-singing counts as non singing here then right?
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