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Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:58 am


Voice type: Baritone
Vocal range: D2-G♯5
Sung range excluding cracks: D2-G♯4

Significant High Notes:
G♯5 'Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show' (studio)
F♯5 (The Johnny Cash Show - "Woo!")
G♯4 'Holly Holy' (live)
G4 'Cracklin Rosie' (live 2010), 'Coming to America', 'A Modern Day Version of Love'
F♯4 'Love on the Rocks', 'He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother'
F4 'I Am I Said', 'Hello Again' (live), 'Beautiful Noise', 'Coming to America', 'I Dreamed a Dream' (live)
E4 'Forever in Blue Jeans', 'Sweet Caroline', 'Cracklin Rosie', 'Solitary Man', 'Cherry Cherry', 'Shilo', 'Longfellow Serenade', 'Brooklyn Roads', 'Stones'
E♭4 'I Am I Said', 'Red Red Wine', 'I'm a Believer'

Significant Low Notes
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D2 'If I Don't See You Again'
E♭2 'Don't Go There'
E2 (fragment of unidentified song on The Johnny Cash Show, 1970 )
F2 'Love on the Rocks' (studio), 'Don't Go There'
F♯2 'Sweet Caroline', 'Cracklin Rosie', 'He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother', 'Midnight Train to Georgia' (live 2010), 'Home Before Dark'
G2 'I Am I Said', 'And the Grass Won't Pay No Mind', 'Stones'
G♯2 'Longfellow Serenade'
A2 'Forever in Blue Jeans', 'Red Red Wine', 'Brooklyn Roads', 'Play Me'
B♭2 'I am I said', 'Midnight Train to Georgia'
B2 'Hello Again', 'Holly Holy'

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*Orange marks notes with questionable registers: absolutely no use figuring out these.
*Blue marks probable non-modal notes.
*Red marks unintentional, unimpressive or extremely bad notes.
*Italics mark non-sung notes.


Credit to AJD125 for most of the initial research.

Small print: I make no guarantees as to the accuracy of my pitching, and apologise in advance for any errors.


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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Maverick31 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:27 am

Awesome singer!

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:49 am

I agree. I love his rich tone and his emotional delivery. He might not push his range to its limits but he doesn't have to.
I have not yet heard the interview C#2 listed and I know nothing of its quality or context, but I'd like to find a note around that sort of pitch or lower in a song, even if it's a non-sung note. Can anybody help me pitch his low laugh in Don't Go There?

3:43 there, or if you just want to listen to the laugh mediafire.com mediafire.com/?1is88r96d93f6z3

It's interesting that the highest we've got so far is from a comparatively recent performance. 2010- he'd be in his late 60s?

P.S. I think we have a candidate for the Laughing smiley:

3:06. I actually think Musebook Tuner might be able to get this one right, but mine's not working at the moment so I'm struggling to pitch it with an online keyboard: sharp G5?


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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Guest on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:34 am

Celice wrote:P.S. I think we have a candidate for the Laughing smiley:

3:06. I actually think Musebook Tuner might be able to get this one right, but mine's not working at the moment so I'm struggling to pitch it with an online keyboard: sharp G5?


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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  AJD125 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:00 pm

Thanks for making the thread Smile
Celice wrote:I have not yet heard the interview C#2 listed and I know nothing of its quality or context
Ok here's a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjh_Y6AM160
he just seemed to me to be speaking quite low. the lowest bit is at 0:26 when he says 'it seems like only a minute AGO'. As I said in the other thread, I'm not actually sure that its a C#2. having listened to it again it sounds more like a D2, plus its only very short.

I'd agree with Eb2 for his laugh in 'Don't go there'.
Celice wrote:It's interesting that the highest we've got so far is from a comparatively recent performance. 2010- he'd be in his late 60s?
well I would say that his higher range is better now than it was back in the late 60s/early 70s. He cracks quite badly on the first F4 at the end of 'I am I said', but nowadays he seems to manage F4's quite easily. I would say if anything, its his lower register that is not as good now. he seems more fryish when he does low stuff and I notice he usually avoids going for the F#2's in 'Sweet Caroline' and 'Cracklin Rosie' when he performs them live now.
Celice wrote:P.S. I think we have a candidate for the Laughing smiley:
I do all my pitching with an online piano and I'm pretty sure its G#5 Smile great find btw.

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  AJD125 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:36 pm

sorry for double post but take a look at this:

I think there's a very brief C2 at 0:12. there's quite a few F#2s aswell throughout the song.
then towards the end at 6:51 I think he *might* go up to an A4. either that or its a very raspy A3 Confused

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:40 pm

AJD125 wrote:
Celice wrote:P.S. I think we have a candidate for the Laughing smiley:
I do all my pitching with an online piano and I'm pretty sure its G#5 Smile great find btw.
Thanks - I figured it was somewhere between G and G# but I'm not good with in-between notes so I erred on the low side.
AJD125 wrote:well I would say that his higher range is better now than it was back in the late 60s/early 70s. He cracks quite badly on the first F4 at the end of 'I am I said', but nowadays he seems to manage F4's quite easily.
I love that he leaves the cracks in his studio recordings when it fits the mood of the song. And since Neil himself has taken to dodging low notes I don't feel so bad about avoiding that one low note in Love On The Rocks Laughing

I found an example of intentional falsetto:

near the end - listen from about 3:00. Also surprisingly clean singing throughout most of the song.

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:42 pm

AJD125 wrote:sorry for double post but take a look at this:

I think there's a very brief C2 at 0:12. there's quite a few F#2s aswell throughout the song.
then towards the end at 6:51 I think he *might* go up to an A4. either that or its a very raspy A3 Confused
Ah, I was planning to notewatch this song - thought it sounded like it has some interesting notes. I'll listen again and get back to you later.

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  AJD125 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:52 pm

Celice wrote:I found an example of intentional falsetto:

near the end - listen from about 3:00. Also surprisingly clean singing throughout most of the song.

nice! never seen him do that before.

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:57 pm

AJD125 wrote:sorry for double post but take a look at this:

I think there's a very brief C2 at 0:12.
I think you're right! Joyful

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  AJD125 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:05 pm

great! Very Happy however i'm now pretty sure that its only an A3 at the end unfortunately Durrr

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:11 pm

It takes a rare talent to make an A3 sound climactic!

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  AJD125 on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:20 pm

probably the best A3 i've heard Parrot

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Whackooyzero on Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:07 pm

Pretty sure that C2 is actually a D2.

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Re: Neil Diamond

Post  Celice on Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:38 pm

Whackooyzero wrote:Pretty sure that C2 is actually a D2.
Smeg, I nearly went for D2 but it sounded to me like C2 as well. I should figure out how to use Audacity or something for my tricky notes pitching method, instead of just giving up when Windows Movie Maker doesn't work. D2 is good enough though - still means we don't need to count the spoken interview note Smile


Anything noteworthy in his brief Johnny Cash impersonation at 1:56? (He also does a high "Woo!" about 0:08).

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