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ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  MrToddington on Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Holsety wrote:[Best distorted tone]
I realize I made a quick decision on my last vocalist, and I literally can't find ANYTHING I like enough to submit to this. I wasn't expecting to do well in the first place, so I give up on this category.

[Most impressive live singing]
Graham Nash - On a Carousel (Live 1968)
first 45 seconds of the following; both links are the full performance
http://picosong.com/RQdP
Spoiler:


[Most tonally varied performance]
Paul McCartney - Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey (1971)
http://picosong.com/RQdX/
Spoiler:

Versus:

Monocus wrote:
I.   Best distorted tone: Paul Rodgers - I Want To Break Free (live 2005)

II.  Most impressive live singing: Glenn Hughes - Mistreated (live 2002)

III.
Most tonally varied performance: Peter Hammill - A Louse Is Not A Home
Alternative url: http://picosong.com/Rmg2
 Most relevant parts : 0:00 to 2:35 | 3:15 to 4:05 | 5:25 to 6:14 |7:58 to 8:11
   (for those who can't be bothered to listen to the whole song)
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Pepe Forever on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:52 pm

1-Best distorted tone: Well, Holsety didn't submit anything, so Monocus wins by default (even though he could've been a great contender with that clip).
"Vote" for Paul Rodgers. "Vote" for Monocus.

2-Most impressive live performance: Graham Nash sounded great. Really bright tenor voice. But Glenn Hughes was both technically and merely from a sound point of view, amazing and mindblowin.
Vote for Glenn Hughes. Vote for Monocus.

3-Most tonally varied performance: Well, Paul voice was pretty varied and cool, but holy shit that Peter Hamill performance has to be the most varied performances I've ever heard (besides guys like Patton and Kyo). From rough raspy vocals, to crazy yelps to the fifth octave, to smooth low crooning, to really silent and light singing, all reminding me of many singers I know as the song went on.
Vote for Peter Hamill. Vote for Monocus.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Pepe Forever on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:52 pm

Pepe Forever wrote:1-Best distorted tone: Well, Holsety didn't submit anything, so Monocus wins by default (even though he could've been a great contender with that clip).
"Vote" for Paul Rodgers. "Vote" for Monocus.

2-Most impressive live performance: Graham Nash sounded great. Really bright tenor voice. But Glenn Hughes was both technically and merely from a sound point of view, amazing and mindblowin.
Vote for Glenn Hughes. Vote for Monocus.

3-Most tonally varied performance: Well, Paul voice was pretty varied and cool, but holy shit that Peter Hamill performance has to be the most varied performances I've ever heard (besides guys like Patton and Kyo). From rough raspy vocals, to crazy yelps to the fifth octave, to smooth low crooning, to really silent and light singing, all reminding me of many singers I know as the song went on.
Vote for Peter Hamill. Vote for Monocus.

Sorry for the lack of mercy, Holsety Rolling Eyes 
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Pepe Forever on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:54 pm

Why I can't edit my comments here? D: I quoted and doubleposted by mistake.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  MrToddington on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:01 pm

Pepe Forever wrote:<votes>
Please add ratings on a 1-5 scale!

Pepe Forever wrote:Why I can't edit my comments here? D: I quoted and doubleposted by mistake.
This is to ensure people don't adjust their ratings later, or remove them entirely.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Pepe Forever on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:14 pm

Whoops, sorry.

Do I have to rate both singers or just the one I think that won?
Either way:

Best distorted:

No singer here, so--------1/5
Paul Rodgers----------3/5 (really good sound and everything, but not very appealing to me)

Best live singing:

Graham Nash---------3/5
Glenn Hughes---------5/5 (for the vocal insanity and emotion)

Most varied tone:

Paul McCartney-------3/5
Peter Hamill-----------4/5

(I rate this low in this category 'cause I've heard guys do even crazier and more varied stuff, and that for me deserves a 5/5)
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Foo on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:43 pm

Best distorted:

No singer --> 0/5
Paul Rodgers --> 2/5 (amazing sound, just not what I'd pick for best distorted, since it's not hard to find much better distorted singing)

Best live

Graham Nash --> 3/5 (very nice timbre and a bright high-placed voice)
Glenn Hughes --> 5/5 (he just blew my mind, so much power and intensity, and DAT C6!)

Most Tonally Varied

Paul McCartney --> 3/5
Peter Hammill --> 4/5 (this one was pretty varied, but I gotta agree with Pepe, people have done much crazier stuff)


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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  MooseyFate on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:18 pm

Best distorted tone:
Nobody: 0/5
It's nobody.

Paul Rodgers: 3/5
A bit too uncontrolled-sounding for my tastes, but still pretty cool.

Best live:
Graham Nash: 3/5
Pretty acrobatic and the pitch stayed pretty stable too.

Glenn Hughes: 5/5
Breathtaking, one of my favorite live performances in general.


Most tonally varied:
Paul McCartney: 4.5/5
I loved the whole telephone segment. Lots of cool tones, played with well.

Peter Hammill: 3/5
Not all too varied, just sounded like a bunch of David Bowies to me.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  B6 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:44 pm

Best distorted tone:
Nobody: amazing singer. Best distorted tone ever. No, seriously, why didn't you think of something for this category? Shame on you, Holsety, man. 0/5
Paul Rodgers: I didn't even like this that much, to be honest. The runs were really unnecessary and wanky, sounded like something Aguilera would do. Still, not a bad distorted tone. Not amazing, but not too bad either. 2.5/5

Most impressive live singing:
Graham Nash: That was nice! Agile singing, on pitch, nice tone that reminds me of Jon Anderson quite a bit. Not super impressive, but tasteful and nice. 3.5/5
Glenn Hughes: This is the exact opposite. Horrendously range-wanky, takes the focus away from the song. But it's amongst the most impressive pieces of live singing ever. Great tone, powerful highs, and the best C6s by a man, ever. It would be hard to find someone to replicate this well, especially at his age. Pretty unreal, so 5/5 seems fair.

Most tonally varied performance:
Paul McCartney: This was cool. He definitely varies his tone quite a bit as he goes higher, and in different ways too. Elegant, relaxed mid-low tone in the verses, amazing bright and supported C5s, ethereal falsettish bits, twangy phoning, and a lot of stuff in between all that. Cool song too, I'd give this a 4.5/5.
Peter Hammill: I can agree with this being quite reminiscent of Bowie, but it's quite varied nonetheless (and it's not like Bowie himself always maintains a single style or tone). Huge chesty highs, deep lows, Clockwork Orange-high slides, proto-Halford screams, soft, clean and quiet high singing... doesn't really make any sense, but it's a winner for this category. He sounds like several people at the same tame and sings with a variety of styles in a wide range. 5/5
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  inhibitions on Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:23 am

Best Distorted Tone:

Nobody: -5/5
Paul Rodgers: 3/5

What a strange voice.

Most Impressive Live Performance:

Graham Nash: 2/5
Glen Hughes: 5/5

Whoa Shocked . How did Hughes even manage to do that live? Nash was alright, he just sounded really annoying.

Most Tonally Varied:

Paul McCartney: 3/5
Peter Hammill: 5/5

Wasn't impressed with McCartney.. But holy shit Hammill killed it. It doesn't get much more varied than that Shocked
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Rodney Razorshorts on Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:35 am

Live Performance
Graham Nash: Strong, energetic singing. Not amazing or anything, but very nice, I was glad to hear it. 3/5
Glenn Hughes: You can't touch a killer though. I count probably count on one hand the people who have the same control in a consistent live setting as Hughes. 5/5

Tonal Versatility
Paul McCartney: Mediocre performance, decent variety. 3/5
Peter Hammill: Good performance, decent variety. 3.5/5
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Holsety on Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:23 am

So, for what it's worth, just look at this for the first two instead.

[Best distorted tone]
Jack White (Racounteurs) - Salute Your Solution
http://picosong.com/REJ2/
Spoiler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWVN91qGM8
(2:20 to 2:30)

[Most impressive live singing]
Graham Nash (Hollies) - On a Carousel
http://picosong.com/REmT/
Spoiler:

(around :20 to :50

He asked me to fix the first one, but I fixed the second too.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Holsety on Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:35 am

I'm also flattered that this was the most-viewed thread, but I wish I knew why.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Pepe Forever on Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:38 am

Did MrToddington allowed you and explicitely asked you to add the distorted clip, even though chaging/submitting new clips after the contest began was forbidden?

Either way

Jack White---------2,5/5. Not bad really, but it sounds like Jack's usual whiny tone with little distortion. Also the volume on that clip is horrendously low. Gotta say Paul Rodgers wins since it sounded much better and was more enjoyable.

Graham Nash-------Well, same performance, you just edited it so that the highlighted fragment would be left alone. My rating is up there already.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Holsety on Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:41 am

He asked me in the other thread to find one, so I did. I really didn't know what I was looking for, either, so for what it's worth.
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Post  Sandblasted on Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:33 am

Distorted tone:
White: Not too bad, but it sounds more like his voice is about to crack (I'm surprised it didn't at that last note). 2.5/5
Rodgers: Fucking FLAWLESS, stellar interplay between the distorted tone (which sounds rich and full) and his clean tone. 5/5

Live singing:
Nash: Very Powerful and energetic, starts kind of average but gets much stronger as it goes on. 3.5/5
Hughes: UUUGGGGHHHHH this guy's shrieky high notes ALWAYS give me a headache!Facepalm Doesn't start off too bad as it sounds like he channels the power he had in the 70s/80s, but then quickly descends back to his grating nasal voice before wanking with high notes that make me want to tear my ears off, inappropriate for a song that was originally meant with a smooth baritone in mind. Technically good, yes, but it sounds absolutely grating to me. 2/5

Tonal Variance:
Macca: Really nice use of different registers and using different voices for the "characters" Laughing Paul's hard to fuck with in this category. 4/5
Hammill: Shows off some nice range but I don't think he changes voice that much, solid performance all around tho. 3/5
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Holsety on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:02 am

I'm happy with what Jack's getting, considering I was expecting nothing to begin with, which was why I submitted nothing. Very Happy
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Shikkaku on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:13 am

I. Best Distorted Tone:

Nobody: Better Singer than Me. Does he deserve a 1/5 or it's a complete W.O?

Paul Rodgers: A Nice timbre but his usage of melisma somehow kills the mood. 3,5/5

II. Best Live Singing:


Graham Nash: Woah, such easy highs! He sounds like a much lower Jon Anderson! 4/5

Glenn Hughes: Althought the beginning sounded too hoarse to me, DAMN, what the hell were those highs? And plus the fact he is singing almost a capella (the soft backing keyboards) makes the thing even better. 4,5/5


III. Most Tonally Varied Singing:


Paul McCartney: His lighter singing sounds simply lovely, and he does indeed showed some versatility but you got a immensely superior opponent. 2,5/5


Peter Hammill: Hands down, my favorite progressive rock singer since I was 14 or so. Absolutely stellar performance. Deep croons, powerful highs, really soft singing, great Halford-like shrieks... Tear-jerking. If i could, I would give this a /5. 5/5
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  inhibitions on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:25 am

Holsety wrote:He asked me in the other thread to find one, so I did. I really didn't know what I was looking for, either, so for what it's worth.

He can't do this right? His vocalist should be penalized.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Shikkaku on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:34 am

I didn't see that he posted a link on the category and I don't know if he actually could do it, but:


I. [b style="font-size: 13px;"]Best Distortion:[/b]


Jack White: Errrr, not much different from his usual timbre. And as a consequence, not good. 1,5/5
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  Holsety on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:54 am

MrToddington wrote:
Also, Holsety, could you please get some clip for category 1? I know you said you can't find anything decent, but something is better than nothing... Razz
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  MrDevilman on Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:10 pm

MrDevilman wrote:Distorted Tone
Jack White - Meh, Im not a fan, but it at least fits better than what I chose. Laughing  2.5/5

Paul Rodgers - A great run, with some awesome grit. - 4/5

Best Live Singing
Graham Nash - not really my type of music... but he performs well enough to deserve a solid 3/5

Glen Hughes - Holy fuck that yell. Shocked  5/5

Tonal Versatility

Paul McCartney - I feel bad that I dont like The Beatles... But his singing is good is quite good and varied.  3.5/5

Peter Hammill - Nice lows at the start, evolving into a nice tenor, I couldn't make it through the entire song though... 3/5
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  MrToddington on Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:16 pm

This thread's become a bit of a mess.

Could everyone who rated Holsety for "nobody" please post revised ratings? Otherwise I won't be counting them. Sorry about this (thank goodness this is just a test round)...
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  MooseyFate on Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:25 pm

Jack White: 3.5/5

Not all that distorted, really.
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Re: ROUND 1: Monocus vs Holsety

Post  B6 on Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:36 pm

I'll give it 3/5. Pretty annoying clip, he cracks and pushes a lot, and yeah, it's not even that distorted.
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