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Post  samuelhinchliffe01 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:35 pm

I've heard it's 3 octaves (exactly), but many singers have two octaves or less. A part of me thinks that the 3 octave claim is false.

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Post  Hopscotch on Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:37 pm

I'd say most singers start out with about two octaves of full voice and one octave of falsetto.

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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:55 pm

three octaves is still considered a very good range. although many professional, "well-known" (dare I say popular) singers have this range - and has such become a selling point between fanboys of the likes of Whitney Houston or Freddie Mercury etc - it is not by any means too common IMO. Two octaves is the standard, three is very good.

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Post  Maverick31 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:11 pm

Abacus wrote:I'd say most singers start out with about two octaves of full voice and one octave of falsetto.

Sounds about right to me.

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Post  AJD125 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:40 pm

Abacus wrote:I'd say most singers start out with about two octaves of full voice and one octave of falsetto.

yes seems about right. maybe even a bit less in some cases and I think some guys struggle to do falsetto at all.

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Post  Maverick31 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:10 pm

AJD125 wrote:
Abacus wrote:I'd say most singers start out with about two octaves of full voice and one octave of falsetto.

yes seems about right. maybe even a bit less in some cases and I think some guys struggle to do falsetto at all.
Yeah, you're right about that. I think it's mainly because men might feel a little bit embarrassed to sound feminine.

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Post  Young Heroins on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:32 pm

My range is E2 - G4 plus about two octaves of falsetto. Id say this is the average for a good baritone. Though ive trained my voice to able to sound incredibly feminine. Forgot where I was going with that but I just came. Good little range wank session

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Post  Angus on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:54 pm

I'd say the standard is around two and a half.

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Post  inhibitions on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:27 pm

For girls, I think it may be a little shorter.

1.5-2 is what I'd say is average for the AVERAGE female singer. Not counting head/mixed/whistle.

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Post  Hopscotch on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:51 pm

Isn't female mixed-head blending naturally better than that of males, though? But yeah, I know females generally have more limited chest voice ranges.

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Post  Angus on Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:16 pm

Let's put it this way: the average singer possesses 2 1/2 octaves and uses 2 octaves and women have slightly less range than men.

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Post  Hopscotch on Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:39 pm

No.

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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:55 pm

Wasn't it thought that women have bigger ranges than men?

not as a rule, but as a standard, because of mixing and some other shit. dunno, my choir teacher told me, and I have personally observed most females have decent ranges and good connection while new males struggle for the two octaves initially.

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Post  Crimsonfripp on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:18 pm

They can, or so goes the theory, access their middle and head voice more easily because they do a lot of speaking in that register. For women, using more of chest voice is a challenge and for men, letting go of vocal weight and connecting their middle and head voice is.

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:28 pm

Pretty interesting. My usable range as far as I know at the moment starts around B♭1 and really doesn't go much past the upper 3rd octave. For example, I'm really reaching my ceiling around D4, if that. Funny that I initially thought I had an unusually small range, when in reality, my range is just in the worst possible area. Facepalm

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Re: Most common octave range for singers!?

Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:43 pm

sounds like it Cringe

is it audible?

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Post  OldSchoolHeavyMetal on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:11 pm

Yeah, I can sing relatively loud and with pretty decent sustain down to the B1/B♭1 area. I just have a really low voice naturally, which has lowered further over time and while I'm not a naturally gifted singer by any stretch, or a skilled one, that area and 2nd octave stuff comes pretty easy to me.

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Re: Most common octave range for singers!?

Post  Saint.0 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:20 pm

The other arguements/opinions here all make good points.
I would suppose a common male range would lie from the mid second octave (E2-G2) to the upper fourth octave (G4-B4) with a couple of fifth octave notes thrown in. (C5-D5)
And I suppose a common female range would lie from the mid/lower third octave (D3-F3) to the mid/upper fifth octave (F5-A5).

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Post  Hopscotch on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54 pm

Benji the Bulsara Boy wrote:Wasn't it thought that women have bigger ranges than men?

not as a rule, but as a standard, because of mixing and some other shit. dunno, my choir teacher told me, and I have personally observed most females have decent ranges and good connection while new males struggle for the two octaves initially.
Depends on what you're counting as "range" here. Most guys tend to start out with about an octave and a half of chest voice, half an octave of undeveloped mixed voice, and an octave of unblended/undeveloped head voice. I don't know the exact parameters of how much of each women have, but I know their voices more naturally sit in mixed voice, their chest voice is usually more limited, and their head voice is naturally more developed than that of males, and they can blend into it from their mixed voice more easily than males can. My best guess is that average range is about the same amount for both genders; females just naturally have it in an area that makes people more inclined to go "wowow such range".

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Re: Most common octave range for singers!?

Post  Crimsonfripp on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:06 am

True, that. People discount low singing, most likely because they don't have actual experience of singing low with a band for a fairly large venue. It's just as awesome to sing the way Jim Morrison does on You're lost little girl. And it's much harder to acquire that than to connect your upper registers (IMO, that is). But I don't hear many songs these days that are written for baritone voices, it's all C4 plus, seemingly.

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Post  Angus on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:47 am

Abacus wrote:No.

I hope by now your immune system has developed an immunity to e-coli and your digestive system can process porcelain.


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Re: Most common octave range for singers!?

Post  Hopscotch on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:25 am

Angus wrote:
Abacus wrote:No.

I hope by now you're immune system has developed an immunity to e-coli and your digestive system can process porcelain by now.
Thanks for the well wishes. I just hope by now you've learned the difference between your and you're.

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Post  Crimsonfripp on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:26 am

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Re: Most common octave range for singers!?

Post  Young Heroins on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:31 am

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Re: Most common octave range for singers!?

Post  inhibitions on Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:20 am

Saint Is Me (The Spinto) wrote:The other arguements/opinions here all make good points.
I would suppose a common male range would lie from the mid second octave (E2-G2) to the upper fourth octave (G4-B4) with a couple of fifth octave notes thrown in. (C5-D5)
And I suppose a common female range would lie from the mid/lower third octave (D3-F3) to the mid/upper fifth octave (F5-A5).
This reverts back to middle voices (baritone, mezzo-soprano). Since they're the most common, wouldn't these rough ranges be the most common?
Just a theory (not saying you're wrong Spinto, you just helped me out)

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